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High Income Earners Pass Bankruptcy’s Means Test

By Cathy Moran

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ALERT:   Being above the median income on the means test is not an automatic bar to filing bankruptcy

I’m so used to railing against deliberate campaigns of misinformation about bankruptcy that I forget that there’s a lot of innocent ignorance out there.

Start with “qualifying” for bankruptcy.

A very earnest and ethical financial counselor was telling me about a client of hers trying to find the right moment in time to file bankruptcy.

She was targeting the point in time after the job loss, but before the new business got established.  After the severance pay ran out and before the child left for college.

Yet the story involved a home with a mortgage and tax debts.

I couldn’t get my head around why, on those facts, the means test was a bar to filing a Chapter 7.

Til something she said tipped me off.  She thought the means test barred families with incomes over the median from Chapter 7.

Wrong, wrong,  WRONG.

Only half must take the means test

Median income only determines whether you have to take the means test to qualify for Chapter 7.

  • Families with income below the median income in their state automatically are allowed to file.
  • Families with income above the median have to take the test. Pass the test, and you are free to file Chapter 7.

In almost 10 years of dealing with the means test, I’d guess less than a dozen of my clients have been kept from filing Chapter 7 by the means test.   Median income by state.

The means test is ugly, obscure, time consuming, and still subject to a lot of uncertainty.  But if it was designed to keep people out of bankruptcy, it hasn’t worked very well.

What’s on the means test

In broad strokes, the means test looks at your average monthly household income and deducts from it

  • some kinds of expenses at the rates provided by the IRS collection standards
  • some kinds of expenses in amounts that you actually expect to spend
  • the secured debt payments and non dischargeable taxes you will owe in the next 5 years

While some parts of the formula are rigid and disconnected from the reality of day-to-day living, it presents many ways to qualify a family to file bankruptcy.

The cruelest part of the means test is it seems to favor people with big mortgages,  car loans, unpaid child support and back taxes.  Those debts are all deductible on the means test.

It’s the folks with upper middle class incomes who pay their taxes, rent, and drive paid-for cars that are disadvantaged by the means test.

So where ever the misconception that the means test just looks at gross family income got started,  I want it stopped, you hear<g>.

If you’re above median

Being over the median income is not an automatic bar to filing bankruptcy.

It just means you need sophisticated bankruptcy counsel and some additional work to crunch the numbers so that you have a choice about your choice of bankruptcy chapter.

Remember that the supposed purpose of the means test was to funnel consumers into Chapter 13.  And most of the Chapter 13 cases we file pay little or nothing to unsecured creditors.  The money paid into the plan goes to creditors my clients want to pay, like delinquent mortgages, car loans, and recent taxes.

Not a bad deal.

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Means test is meaningless in Bay Area

Getting excused from the means test

Doing the means test yourself

Image courtesy of photobunny. 

Filed Under: How bankruptcy works

Chapter 13 To The Rescue In Ruinous Business Lawsuit

By Cathy Moran

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Twice in the last six months, Chapter 13 bankruptcy has saved clients facing catastrophic lawsuits arising out of business.

And because the targets of these lawsuits filed bankruptcy before they’d spent a fortune on lawyers and before the court had a chance to award huge damages, they fit beneath the Chapter 13 debt limits.

We think of Chapter 13 as a consumer tool.  It’s designed for those with a regular income.  It’s sometimes called a wage earner plan.  The amount of debt involved has to be below certain limits.

So, Chapter 13’s application to business lawsuits isn’t obvious.

But it works like a charm.

Here’s how Chapter 13 rescued one client sued about a business dispute.

Chapter 13 filed before judgment

Chapter 13 is not available to everyone.  Only individuals can file.  Their debts must fall below certain amounts.

But, critically, the debt limits in Chapter 13 apply to debts that are liquidated.  That means that the amount of money owing is fixed.

Liquidate:  to determine the amount of indebtedness or damages.

The lawsuit my client faced asked for “damages according to proof”.  The former business associate claimed many measures of harm, all of which was disputed.  The claim was unliquidated; you couldn’t see or calculate the claim from the face of the complaint.

The suit could not be ignored.  And given the attitude of the plaintiff, the seriousness of the allegations, and the complexity of the case, it was going to be expensive to try.  And ruinous if the plaintiff won.

By filing Chapter 13 before trial, the claim was UNliquidated when the bankruptcy was filed.

No matter how much the plaintiff claimed was owed, because no amount of damages had been determined before the bankruptcy was filed, the unliquidated debt didn’t count against the Chapter 13 debt caps. [For context, when the plaintiff later filed a claim, he sought $15,000,000!]

Why Chapter 13 rocks

Chapter 13 offers eyepopping advantages over other forms of bankruptcy that my client could have chosen.  The first advantage is that a debtor in Chapter 13 stays in possession and control of his assets during the case.

By contrast, in Chapter 7, a court appointed trustee takes legal control of the debtor’s assets.  The trustee is tasked with turning non exempt assets into cash for the benefit of creditors.

My client could have seen his home sold in a Chapter 7, long before it was determined if he really owed the former business associate anything.

In a Chapter 11, which has no debt caps, he could have stayed in possession of his assets.  But to confirm a Chapter 11 plan, he would have to get the votes of his creditors in favor of a plan.  An angry creditor with a large claim is unlikely to vote for a plan the debtor sees as desireable.

In Chapter 13, the role of creditors in approving a plan is much smaller.  A creditor can object only on certain grounds found in the bankruptcy code.  Being unhappy with the amount being paid to creditors is not one of the permissible objections.

Confirmation tests for Chapter 13

Not to mention that the legal fees in Chapter 11 are invariably much larger than in Chapter 13.

Plan confirmation limits the damage

When the Chapter 13 plan proposed by my client was confirmed, that plan effectively limited for all time the amount he’d have to pay to put all of his debts behind him.

Where a creditor with a California judgment can collect that judgment for 10 years, and renew it for another 10 years, confirmation of a Chapter 13 plan limits what creditors get.  The pot of money the debtor will create through the plan equals the amount that would have been paid to creditors if the bankruptcy case had been Chapter 7 instead of Chapter 13.

Importantly, the amount a Chapter 7 trustee would distribute is what’s left when the trustee’s expenses have been paid, any capital gains taxes have been paid, and any claims with priority over unsecured creditors have been paid.

Instead of his wages and his acquisitions for the next 10 or 20 years being exposed to levy to pay a judgment, now the client has a 5 year payment plan based on the value of his assets on the day he filed bankruptcy.

Appreciation in value and improvement in financial circumstances all remain with the debtor.

What plaintiff gets if he wins

Confirmation of a Chapter 13 plan which fixes the total amount that unsecured creditors get on their claims limits the up-side to the vicious plaintiff.

The dispute about whether my client owes this guy anything is ongoing;  since we objected to the $15 M claim, the dispute has to be decided somewhere.

If the debtor wins, his other creditors don’t have to share the pot of money created by the plan with plaintiff.

If plaintiff wins and fixes the amount that the debtor owes him, he gets only a larger slice of the same “pie”.  Whether he is owed fifteen dollars or $15, 000,000, plaintiff’s recovery is limited to a share of the money going through the Chapter 13.

At the end of the Chapter 13, any part of the judgment that hasn’t been paid is discharged.

Some pain remains

It’s not going to be a free ride.  My client has been forced to file bankruptcy and still has to pay for representation in the bankruptcy case and for his trial lawyers.

The litigation over plaintiff’s claim won’t be pleasant.

He faces five years of plan payments to fund the Chapter 13 plan.

But even an adverse result at trial will not blot his life for the foreseeable future.

That’s why our legal system favors a fresh start through bankruptcy.  And why I’m a huge fan of Chapter 13.

Filed Under: Chapter 13, How bankruptcy works, True Stories Tagged With: 2016

Debts You Can’t Wipe Out In Bankruptcy

By Cathy Moran

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Nineteen kinds of debt survive a bankruptcy discharge: but three stand out from the rest.

Those three exceptions to discharge look, not at the kind of debt such as taxes, or support or student loans.  Rather the exceptions look at  how the debt arose.

These exceptions prevent bad actors from escaping the consequences in bankruptcy.  Bankruptcy is supposed to help the honest but unfortunate person.

There’s another, significant difference:  a creditor who holds one of these claims has to act, promptly, to except his claim from discharge.

The creditor has to file a timely challenge to the discharge of its debt.

And then, carry the burden of proof at trial.  The debtor gets a presumption that the debt is dischargeable.

So, what kind of bad behavior may keep a debt from being discharged?

Fraud is first

Debts that are created as a result of fraud, misrepresentation or false pretenses aren’t subject to being wiped out.  That’s §523(a)(2).

Note that the exception looks at the transaction at its begining. The statute focuses on money, property, services to the extent obtained by fraud.

While the debtor may have behaved badly after a debt was created. that bad behavior doesn’t exclude the debt from discharge.

There’s another wrinkle. If the alleged false statement is one about the debtor’s financial condition, that statement must be in writing to preclude discharge.

Breach of fiduciary duty survives

The second clutch of bad behaviors that can’t be discharged involve breach of fiduciary duty, embezzlement and larceny. §523(a)(4).

Embezzlement and larceny, which is a kind of theft, are easy to understand.  But not so, fiduciary duty.  Bankruptcy law has a narrow definition of who is a fiduciary.

For breach of fiduciary duty to be nondischargeable, the duty must arise under an express trust.  So trusts that are created by law to further equity or prevent undue enrichment don’t fall under this subsection.

One of the first judges I practiced before used to say that under California law, everyone is a fiduciary for everyone else.  But not in his federal court.

Willful and malicious injury gets no discharge

Debts grounded in intentional injury to person or property live on after bankruptcy. Section 523(a)(6)makes non dischargeable debts for willful and malicious injury by the debtor to another entity or to the property of another entity;

There’s a huge body of law tussling with the meaning of “willful” and “malicious”.  And the plot thickens when you realize that the protections for creditors created by this subsection is greater in Chapter 13 than in Chapter 7.

In Chapter 13 a debt for damages for personal injury is non dischargeable if it results from either willfulness or malice!  Damage property willfully or maliciously and you’re OK in Chapter 13.

Timing is everything

There’s a timing issue for both creditors and debtors in these three discharge exception cases.

Debtors facing state court litigation may want to file bankruptcy before trial of the matter.  Findings of fact made in a state court trial will be entitled to finality in a  bankruptcy trial.

So,  suffer an adverse finding in state court and you’re stuck with that finding in bankruptcy.

But since the standards of what is fraud or false representations is slightly different in federal law than in state law, you may have a dispute about whether the finding is really on the same issue that the bankruptcy court is focused on.

It may be cheaper to try the issue once, in bankruptcy court, than risk having to defend yourself twice in state court, then bankruptcy court.

Creditors must be diligent once a bankruptcy case is filed, to meet the filing deadline for challenging the discharge of their debt.  Generally, the bankruptcy court sets a deadline 60 days after the date set for the first meeting of creditors by which challenges to dischargeability must be filed.

Miss that deadline for one of these kinds of debts and you’re out of luck.  The debt will be discharged regardless of the merits of the challenge you could have brought to exclude it from discharge.

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Filed Under: How bankruptcy works Tagged With: 2018, non dischargeable, timing

Speak Fluent Bankruptcy

By Cathy Moran

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Bankruptcy has its own language.  If you are considering filing bankruptcy, it helps to know the language spoken there.

Master just a couple of words and phrases, and input from a bankruptcy lawyer starts to make sense.

So, in our continuing campaign for better understanding of bankruptcy, here’s a dozen phrases from the language of Bankruptcy for your meeting with a bankruptcy lawyer.

Essential bankruptcy terms

Petition – the first paper filed in a bankruptcy case that initiates the case.  It invokes the automatic stay. 

Automatic stay – an injunction against creditors that halts collection and foreclosure just because the petition has been filed. 

Schedules  = the balance of the papers filed after the petition to flesh out your bankruptcy case.  

Trustee  – the individual appointed by the Department of Justice  to oversee your filing and to represent the interests of creditors as a whole. 

U.S. Trustee – an employee of the Department of Justice who supervises trustees and monitors Chapter 11 cases with no creditors committee

Means test – a form and a formula added to consumer bankruptcy cases supposedly to ferret out bankruptcy filers who are really able to pay creditors without bankruptcy.

Discharge – the court order that makes your dischargeable unsecured debts unenforceable

Dischargeable – debts that may be wiped out in bankruptcy  

Non dischargeable  debts that are excluded from the  discharge by the terms of the Bankruptcy Code.

Reaffirm – an agreement made after filing to waive the discharge as to a particular debt.  Reaffirmation requires court approval  

Transfer  – any act that changes ownership or title to an asset, or creates a lien on an asset.

Post petition – events that happen after the petition for bankruptcy is filed.

Add some numbers to your list

Because bankruptcy is based on the Bankruptcy Code, bankruptcy types tend to use the number of some important statutes as shorthand.

341 – Section 341 requires a first meeting of creditors in every bankruptcy case.  We call that the 341 meeting.

523 –  This is the section that lists the debts that are non-dischargeable.  Several subsections require an affected creditor to prove his debt is non dischargeable.

727 – This section sets out the circumstances when a discharge can be denied altogether.  It can be brought by a creditor or the trustee for the benefit of all creditors.

Bankruptcy chapters come next

Different chapters of the Bankruptcy Code provide for different kinds of bankruptcy cases that may be filed.

Chapter 7  – a liquidation bankruptcy case available to individuals and business entities, but not trusts or estates.

Chapter 13  – a reorganization case for individuals with debts under certain limits.

Chapter 11  – a more complex reorganization case for individuals and business entities without debt limits

Chapter 12  – a simplified reorganization proceeding for family farmers

Use your words

Now that you have a working bankruptcy vocabulary, start talking to a bankruptcy lawyer to find out how these concepts work in real life.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions.  There is no reason why you should immediately understand this very specialized area of law.

Even when you understand the concepts, how those concepts apply to your situation, and how they interact with each other is what’s really important.

Make sure you pick a bankruptcy lawyer willing to take your questions and to deliver answers that you can understand.

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Filed Under: How bankruptcy works Tagged With: 2017

The Secret Bankruptcy Exemptions

By Cathy Moran

Telling a secretExemptions in bankruptcy are all about what you keep.

Exemptions define the collection of assets and rights that are safe from the reach of a bankruptcy trustee or your creditors.

But planning exemptions in a bankruptcy case is more than just the looking down the list of things you keep through bankruptcy and the dollar amount that is protected.

Jay Fleichman suggested that if the value of your assets exceeded the exemptions available, Chapter 13 needed to be your chapter of choice.

Actually, your exemptions in bankrupty swell beyond the stated amount for reasons not printed in the law books.

Subtract transaction costs from asset value

The unwritten enhancement to exemptions are the transaction costs, those expenses incurred to turn an asset into cash.

A Chapter 7 trustee can sell assets that are not exempt or that have an exemption that covers only some part of its value only if the sale produces money he can distribute to creditors.

To turn some assets into cash, he has to sell them.

There may be an auctioneer or realtor’s commission involved. The sale may trigger taxes.

And the trustee gets paid for his work from a fraction of the money he distributes to creditors.  Gotta subtract his commission before paying creditors.

So, add to the exemption value the estimated costs of the trustee’s sale and his commission.  Trustees are only supposed to take the debtor’s things for sale if the sale produces a meaningful distributions to creditors.

Why debtors keep their homes

The simplest example of transaction costs at work is a house with more equity than the exemption.

After you’ve taken the sale value of the home and subtracted the liens on the property and the homeowner’s exemption, subtract the realtor’s commission and any other sales expenses to see if there is really equity for creditors available upon a sale.

Take out the trustee’s commission and any capital gains taxes too.

In order to sell an asset, the trustee must show the court that after all the expenses, there will be a meaningful distribution to creditors.  If there’s little or nothing left after this calculation, the trustee should not sell the home.

Rearrange your holdings

If you have an asset that can’t be exempted, consider selling it and putting the sale proceeds into an asset that can be exempted.

Sure, you lose the particular asset, but you don’t lose its value, if you can put the money into an exempt form.

There are some limits:  you need to get fair market value for the asset you’re selling.  No bargain sales to your brother.  Arms length transaction for whatever the asset is worth today.

It’s no problem if the asset isn’t worth what it once was, or that the market is depressed.

You just need to realize what the world is paying today for things like it.

Make good use of cash

My favorite use of “extra” cash is to fund an IRA for every bankruptcy filer with available, non exempt money.  It is universally regarded as a meritorious move.

IRA’s, after all, now have a federal bankruptcy exemption in excess of  $1 million.

Another exemption-expanding stategy is to spend non exempt income and save exempt income.  Social Security income is exempt from creditors and from bankruptcy trustees.

In California, retirement income is also exempt.

If that’s your situation, consider spending the proceeds from the sale of something that isn’t exempt, and saving the exempt money.

It’s critical that you segregate the exempt income in its own bank account.  You want to be able to trace the money on deposit to an exempt source.

More ideas on what to do with non exempt cash.

Get good legal advice

Exemption planning is a tricky subject.  Some trustees and some regions of the country take huge offense if a debtor has rearranged things to keep more than he might otherwise have kept.

The larger the sums of money in motion, the more likely you are to hear the dreaded phrase:  pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.

An experienced bankruptcy attorney can help you find the line between the two.

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Filed Under: How bankruptcy works

Who Gets A Slice Of The Bankruptcy Pie?

By Cathy Moran

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“That woman filed a claim in our bankruptcy case, and we don’t owe her any money!”

The next line, or paragraph really, of my client’s email asked what was I, her bankruptcy lawyer, going to do about it.

The short answer was nothing.

Nada.

Not a thing.

I didn’t plan to do anything.

Because when you have a pot plan in Chapter 13, it doesn’t matter who files a claim or for how much.

You pay the same.

Pot or Percentage

When you choose Chapter 13, you get to set the terms of the plan.  The plan  tells creditors and the Chapter 13 how much money you’ll pay the trustee each month and how that money gets distributed.

The claims of creditors are categorized:  secured, priority, co signed, and general unsecured.

You can treat claims of the run-of-the-mill unsecured creditor in two different ways.  You can promise each unsecured creditor a certain percentage of their allowed claim:

Creditors holding unsecured claims shall receive 20% of their claim.

Or, you can propose a “pot” plan.  You fund a pot of a specified number of dollars, to be shared among unsecured creditors according to the percentage of the total claims represented by that creditor’s claim.

When filed claims differ

The difference between the two ways of stating your payment plan comes out when claims are actually filed.  (No creditor gets paid in Chapter 13 without filing a claim.) [Read more…]

Filed Under: Chapter 13, How bankruptcy works

Automatic Stay Has Exceptions: It Doesn’t Stop Everything

By Cathy Moran

bankruptcy stay exceptions

The automatic stay is the signature feature of American bankruptcy.

Just by filing a bankruptcy case, a federal court injunction instantly prohibits your creditors  from actions to collect a debt from you or your assets.

But, there’s a whole list of actions that aren’t included in the stay.  We forget that some kinds of lawsuits with a financial aspect get excluded from the stay.

How the stay works

The automatic stay applies in all bankruptcy cases (unless you’ve filed more than two bankruptcy cases in the last year).

To get a stay outside of bankruptcy, you have to prove that you are entitled to an injunction.  A bond may be required.

In bankruptcy the injunction is granted automatically, just because you filed.

The burden falls to creditors to take action to extract themselves from the stay.

The stay has its limits

The list of exceptions is long and many of the excluded actions are very specific and technical. See 11 U.S.C. 362(b).

But there are some biggies there too among the exceptions.

Here are the ones of most interest to the typical bankruptcy filer.

Family law issues

Actions to establish or modify support are not stayed.  Neither are proceedings involving custody, marital status or paternity.

Support can be collected from property that isn’t “property of the estate” without violating bankruptcy law.  And state issued licenses can be suspended for failure to pay support.  That’s subsection (b)(2).

Law enforcement

The stay doesn’t stop criminal prosecutions.  Nor does it stop the enforcement of actions grounded in the public health and safety; that’s called the government regulatory exemption.  More about that below.

Tax administration

Your state tax folks and the feds can legally demand the filing of a tax return; audit returns you’ve filed; and assess taxes they claim you owe.

Government can’t, however, record liens or levy assets to collect a tax you owed when you filed bankruptcy.

Private rights

A landlord under a lease that expired according to its terms before the bankruptcy case was filed can proceed to get possession of non residential property.

Civil contempt sanctions

Collection of court-ordered sanctions for misconduct in litigation is not prohibited by the stay.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently decided that the public’s interest in making parties to a lawsuit play by the rules outweighed the sanctioned party’s interest in getting complete protection from collection action.  The fact that the sanctions might be payable to the other party to the litigation didn’t change the state’s interest in enforcing its sanction for bad behavior in court.  The case is Dingley.

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Filed Under: How bankruptcy works Tagged With: 2018

How Much Should You Pay To Get Out Of Debt?

By Cathy Moran

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Shop for a bankruptcy lawyer, and you’ll end up wondering what bankruptcy should cost.

When you’re flat broke and under pressure, cheaper sure looks better.

If a lawyer will do your Chapter 7 for $600, what’s the point of paying $1000? Or even $2000?

Like answers to many legal questions, it depends.

Bankruptcy relief depends on your facts

Whether to file bankruptcy, or whether to file now, rather than later, depends on how the facts of your financial situation interact with bankruptcy law.

Your bankruptcy lawyer is charged with gathering those facts and analyzing them so that you get the most debt relief the system can offer.

If your bankruptcy lawyer doesn’t dig deep enough, or think broadly enough, you may hit avoidable snags in your case. Or you may squander opportunities for more relief from your debts.

With the caveat that there is no direct and sure-fire connection between cost and quality, let’s talk about what it costs to escape from broke.

How to figure what your bankruptcy should cost

1.  The cheapest guy in town isn’t for you.  Chances are, he’s new to the field.  He’s dabbling.  Or, he’s hoping to sell you something else along with a bankruptcy, or he’s outsourced the real work to someone with even less training than he has.

Further, if you are looking for advice about finances, is the cut rate practitioner the one best suited to provide that perspective?

2.  The more that’s at stake, the better representation you need.

The larger the value of your assets, the more likely you need higher value legal help.  If the point of the bankruptcy is to save your house or end nasty big dollar litigation,  you need more legal firepower than if you are simply discharging old credit cards or medical bills.

3.  The more people involved with you in money matters, the better lawyer you need

Got business partners, assets owned with others, money set aside for children?  All of those situations trigger special parts of the bankruptcy code with possible results you or an inexperienced lawyer don’t anticipate.

4.  Who is chasing you?  

When your likely opponents in a bankruptcy case are heavy weights, you need to lawyer up.  Think IRS, criminal justice system, or well funded ex spouses.

The stronger your opposition, the more likely weaknesses in your bankruptcy case will be identified and exploited, to your detriment.

What legal fees should buy

When you hire a bankruptcy lawyer, you are buying familiarity with the body of bankruptcy law and the analytic skills to see how that law applies to the facts in your case.

The more you pay, the greater your entitlement to some hand holding in the form of answers to your questions, no matter how muddled or how frequent.

Price is not necessarily connected to good client service, but that is usually the case.  Low fees leave little room for interpersonal niceties or actual access to the lawyer.

How much to pay for bankruptcy

At the risk of falling back on cliches, it depends.

It depends on the cost of living where you are.  Legal fees are more expensive in San Francisco than they are in Redding or Susanville.

It depends on your situation.  Straightforward kind of debts, stand-alone finances, and few assets, the more likely the mid price practitioner can handle your case well.

It depends on the level of service you want and need to get through a tough patch.  If you are emotionally battered, unsure, or unwell, maybe you want to pay for more service rather than less.

Survey the legal market where you are.  Be prepared to interview and reject lawyers and law firms who can’t talk candidly about their experience, fees and costs.

And don’t think that a high fee necessarily means expert representation.

After all, what bankruptcy should cost depends.

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Filed Under: How bankruptcy works, You & your lawyer

Bankruptcy Alphabet: Q is for Questions

By Cathy Moran

 

The letter Q stands for Questions in my bankruptcy alphabet.

Like the storied Light Brigade, “stormed at with shot and shell” , we in bankruptcy are peppered with questions, not cannons.

Those considering bankruptcy have the profound questions:will bankruptcy improve my situation?

  • what will I give up to get a bankruptcy discharge?
  • what is life after bankruptcy like?

Bankruptcy attorneys in turn have questions of the client:

  • what do you own?
  • who do you owe?
  • what has recently changed about your finances?

Then, the bankruptcy trustee has questions:

  • did you read these documents before you signed them?
  • is everything true, correct, and complete?
  • do you owe any domestic support to anyone?

All three players, debtor, attorney, and trustee need to have their questions answered for the system to work.

Have the answers

When it’s your turn to provide answers, it can be make or break time. Get sloppy, indifferent or inattentive, and one or more of the central players in the bankruptcy triad gets less than is necessary to assure a good outcome.

Let me suggest that one of the most important qualities in a superior bankruptcy lawyer is the ability to answer client questions simply and directly.

The companion quality is the ability to make the client feel comfortable enough to ask the perplexing or distressing questions. If client questions are not met with respect and openness, then find another lawyer.

The person who gets a smooth and predictable bankruptcy filing is the one who takes his lawyer’s questions seriously.

Don’t just tell me about the obvious; engage and tell me about everything, whether YOU think it important or whether you believe it has value or not.

I ask for a reason.

Questions and their answers are at the heart of the bankruptcy filing process.

This post has been brought to you by the letter Q.

While I think Q is for Questions in the Bankruptcy Alphabet, consumer protection lawyer Jay Fleischman proposes Q stands for Quiet.

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Image courtesy of Leo Reynolds.

 

Filed Under: ABC's of bankruptcy, How bankruptcy works

V Is For Value In Bankruptcy Alphabet

By Cathy Moran

Bankrutpcy Alphabet: V is for Value

 

The Letter V is for Value in my bankruptcy alphabet.

The value of one’s assets drives exemptions and the question of what you get to keep through bankruptcy.

The value of  your assets that are subject to liens also determines whether you can void liens on those assets.

I’m fond of saying that bankruptcy is a snapshot of what you own and what you owe on the day you file bankruptcy.  The workings of a bankruptcy case revolve around what your assets were worth on the day you filed bankruptcy.

It’s sometimes hard for families to realize (and write down on their bankruptcy schedules)  that the value of their personal property is very little, since value for these purposes is what you could sell the stuff in question for.  Particularly in today’s distressed economy, that may be a disappointing number.

What’s it worth

I have strange conversations with clients about the value of their assets.

Asked what their household goods are worth, they give me a substantial number.  Skeptical, I ask  “Could you sell them now for that?”.  “Oh, no,” comes the reply, “but that’s what they’re worth.”

Sorry to say, but the value of  assets in bankruptcy is what they can be sold for, today.

Value critical to exemption law

Many exemptions are capped at a certain dollar value.

In California, for instance, you can exempt $7,175 in jewelry, heirlooms and works of art. So the fact that things you bought for much more are saleable today for far less works in your favor if you want to keep the asset.

Your treasures are more likely to fit within the exemption at the lower value.

Another way a lower value at filing works in the client’s favor involves assets that are encumbered by voluntary or involuntary liens.  The lower the value of home, business, or timeshares, the greater the chance the debtor can strip off liens that don’t really attach to  equity in the asset.

A lien that is stripped off is gone forever, so you reap dividends into the future because of that lower value.

This valuable stuff  has been brought to you by the letter V.

V can also stand for Vehicles in bankruptcy and for Vesting,

More on value

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Cutting tax liens down to size

All about exemptions

Image courtesy of Leo Reynolds.

Filed Under: ABC's of bankruptcy, How bankruptcy works

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About The Soapbox

You've arrived at the Bankruptcy Soapbox, a resource of bankruptcy information and consumer law.

Soapbox is a companion site to Bankruptcy in Brief, where I try to be largely explanatory and even handed (Note I said "try").

Here, I allow myself to tell stories and express strong opinions on how I think law should work for the consumer and small businesses when it comes to debt.

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When Can I File Bankruptcy Again

You can file bankruptcy tomorrow, so long as you don't currently have a bankruptcy case pending. When you can get a discharge in that case is a different story. The Bankruptcy Code limits the frequency of getting a discharge, not the filing and completion of the bankruptcy case. My friend Gene Melchionne wrote … Read more

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