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The Difference Between Good Bankruptcy Lawyer and Great Bankruptcy Lawyer

By Cathy Moran

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Finding the right bankruptcy lawyer may be the difference between a successful bankruptcy and a nightmare.

Choosing a lawyer you can talk to is critical.

You’ll be disclosing lots of information normally held confidential.

But there’s more.

It’s not just a lawyer you can tell your secrets to.

You need to find a lawyer willing to answer your questions, over and over, if necessary, until you understand the choices that you must make in filing bankruptcy.

Until you understand the issues and the consequences, you can’t play your position on the bankruptcy team.

Choices after deciding to file

Some things, a client doesn’t have to truly understand to file bankruptcy: how the means test works, or doesn’t work, is one of them.

The debtor need only validate some of the information in the form.

But other bankruptcy issues require the client to make choices and perhaps confront risks.

  • Is the loan repayment to your parents a recoverable preference?
  • Does the recent use of your credit card make you susceptible to the charge of incurring debt by fraud?
  • Are you at risk of a UST challenge to your Chapter 7 case as an abuse?

Decisions surrounding these issues are, in the end, the client’s decision. The factors are complex, and in this day of “new” bankruptcy law, sometimes uncertain.

The client needs to feel absolutely comfortable asking their counsel to explain the issue, assess the risks, and explore alternatives with them.

The lawyer needs to be capable of explaining without jargon or presumption.

The bankruptcy problem your lawyer can’t handle

So I would add to the list of qualities in superior bankruptcy counsel: openness to the layman’s questions.

Great bankruptcy lawyers are willing to restate and reanalyze the options until the client understands.  You need to feel comfortable saying you don’t understand and asking that the lawyer try another way to say it.

A technically good bankruptcy lawyer who is not capable of making you a partner in the conduct of the case may end up excluding you from considerations that rightfully belong to you, the client.

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Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Featured, You & your lawyer

Is It Too Late For Bankruptcy?

By Cathy Moran

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Worried that it’s too late to file bankruptcy?

You’ve put off considering bankruptcy, hoping to tough it out, or hoping for a miracle.

But at some point, time runs out:  you’ve been served with a lawsuit;  judgment has been entered against you; or even, a garnishment appears on your paycheck.

Is it too late? Have you’ve waited too long for bankruptcy to help?

While I don’t recommend procrastination,  at almost every stage of debt collection, bankruptcy can save your bacon, or at least what’s left of your bacon.

Served with a lawsuit

When a summons and complaint lands on your doorstep, the clock starts ticking on the time you have to file a written answer to the complaint.

Skip filing an answer and the outfit suing you wins whatever the complaint prays for.

Filing bankruptcy at this point stops the lawsuit in its tracks.  The automatic stay that comes, automatically(!), with the bankruptcy case forbids further action in that suit without express court permission.

Assuming the debt doesn’t involve dishonesty or family support (or several more, less likely things), any liability you have on the debt is discharged at the end of your bankruptcy case.  End of story.

So, it’s not to late to file if you’ve been sued.

You lose a lawsuit

Once a judgment is entered against you, bankruptcy can still help.

Just because a court has determined that you owe the money and the creditor is entitled to all the legal remedies to get its money, the debt may still be discharged in bankruptcy.

The kinds of debts that can’t be discharged are based on the nature of the debt, not where the debt is in the collection process.  Bankruptcy law says that you can’t escape your obligation to support your family or pay your recent taxes, or escape debts created by fraud or other serious dishonesty.

But garden variety credit cards, loans and medical bills can be discharged, even after there is a judgment entered for the debt.

Wait until judgment is entered and there are some consequences that might limit relief in bankruptcy.

Chapter 13 has limits on the amount of debt you can owe and qualify for Chapter 13.  Once a judgment is entered, the amount of the debt is fixed and it might put you over the debt limits.

Another limiting consequence of waiting til judgment is entered is that a finding by a court that you committed fraud or misrepresentation may require a bankruptcy court to make the same finding.  The debt may then be excluded from the discharge.

With those exceptions, it’s not too late to file bankruptcy if a judgment has been entered against you.

Creditor gets a judgment lien

Bankruptcy can change the balance of power even if you’ve waited til the creditor with a judgment has perfected a judgment lien against your assets.  How much change is possible depends on the exemptions available when you file bankruptcy.

One of the basic principles of bankruptcy is that the bankruptcy discharge eliminates your personal liability, but liens survive the bankruptcy attached to the assets you had when you filed.

But there’s hope:  you are permitted to avoid judgment liens that interfere with any exemptions you could claim in an asset.  It doesn’t matter how fresh, or how old, the lien is.  If it prevents you from getting the benefit of an exemption, you can avoid it.

Avoiding a lien requires filing a motion in your bankruptcy case.  It doesn’t happen automatically.  And if you forget to do it in your bankruptcy, you can reopen the bankruptcy case in the future to file the motion.

It’s not too late to discharge your personal liability for a judgment and eliminate the judgment lien as well in bankruptcy.

Your wages are garnished

By the time your wages are threatened with garnishment, your creditor has a judgment.  That judgment brings with it the power allowed by state law to collect that judgment.

But just like each scenario we’ve discussed here, a garnishment can be stopped by filing bankruptcy and getting the automatic stay in place.

Your creditor may be entitled to what ever wages you have earned between the time the garnishment was served on your employer and the day you file bankruptcy.  But gong forward, your wages are yours.

Garnishment survival guide

Bankruptcy law also lets you recover amounts your creditor got in the 90 days before you filed bankruptcy.  Wait longer than 90 days, and you lose the right to reclaim the garnished funds.

Bankruptcy stops garnishments.

Timing is up to you

At almost every point in a collection suit, filing bankruptcy can stop the bleeding and allow you to eliminate your debt.  The discharge makes that debt forever uncollectible from you and your assets.

There is some damage to your finances that bankruptcy can’t undo.  Borrow against your home or invade your retirement assets to pay bills that you ultimately discharge in bankruptcy, and you have no legal ways to get that money back.

If you’re facing debts you can’t pay, make a plan.  Early is better than late.

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Image courtesy of Flickr and openDemocracy

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Featured

When Is The Right Time To File Bankruptcy

By Cathy Moran

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It can be hard to know when it’s the right time to file bankruptcy. But I was blown away by the man who called my law office.

Should I wait until all of my savings are gone to file bankruptcy?, the caller asked.

And he didn’t mean, until my net worth is greatly reduced; he meant, until my bank balance is zero.

One has to admire the resolve of those who propose to pay on debts that they can never repay up to the point where they literally have nothing.

My advice, of course, is “no“. There is no point in making further payments when you can see you’re heading for bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy exemptions allow you to keep a collection of assets necessary for a fresh start.  In California, we have exemptions that will even shelter meaningful cash in the bank.

In Chapter 13, you can keep everything you own.

There is not even a requirement  that you be destitute or even insolvent to file bankruptcy.  You simply need to be willing to play by the rules of the bankruptcy chapter you choose.

Those rules are centered on making full financial disclosure.

When to consider bankruptcy

The short answer is probably now.  

If you are reading this, you probably wonder if bankruptcy could help you out of a hole.  Instead of wondering, see a bankruptcy lawyer. (I’ll tell you a secret:  bankruptcy lawyers don’t bite.)

So often I wish clients had come to me earlier:

  • before they borrowed against their retirement to pay credit cards;
  • before they took bad home loans that imperil their home;
  • before they borrowed from one credit card to pay on another.

Don’t take big financial steps til you see a lawyer

The right time to consider bankruptcy is when you suspect that you can’t really repay your debts in full in 3-5 years, on your own.

Or, when the stress of being in debt interferes with your health or your relationships.  Or, when you have no reserves should things get worse. 

Stress kills

Seeing a bankruptcy lawyer doesn’t commit you to filing.  It just arms you with information about what your options are.

Most people who see a good bankruptcy lawyer are surprised that bankruptcy relief is relatively simply and very effective for almost everyone.

Information is power….become more powerful. Figure out if now is the right time to file bankruptcy.

Read on

Picking a bankruptcy lawyer

Alternatives to bankruptcy

What you keep through bankruptcy

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights

Should You Pay Your Creditors Rather Than File Bankruptcy?

By Cathy Moran

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Is there an alternative to bankruptcy, my clients often ask. Can I realistically avoid filing bankruptcy?

A fellow bankruptcy lawyer outlined what it takes to get out of debt without bankruptcy.

  • make more money;
  • spend less on today’s expenses; and
  • use all your savings to pay off debt.

If you could do all three,  for long enough, and, your debt isn’t too large, it probably works.

I want to pose the question: even if that’s possible, is it smart?

Cost of bankruptcy alternatives

So, you want to pay off your debt without help from the legal system.

What do you forgo in that scenario?

If it’s travel; lattes; and premium cable that go, I’m OK with that.

But, what if the things you do without are emergency reserves; health insurance; and retirement savings?  I think that continuing to live on the financial edge is a poor choice.

One small glitch, car trouble, ill health, or fewer hours at work, and your fine and honorable plan to pay your creditors comes unraveled.

Make good decisions about your future

Whether your financial difficulty was caused by bad luck or bad choices, don’t make a bad decision, driven by pride, to compound the trouble by living without a safety net.

Studies prove being in debt makes you stupid

Too many of my clients arrive in my office with the conviction that they incurred this debt and, by damn, they want to repay it.

At some level, I applaud that desire. But what are the likely consequences of repaying that debt if it means making no provision for financial stability now and in the future?

Have you just traded one sort of bad situation for another?

Part of reforming your financial situation involves looking beyond this month’s bills to the needs of the next decade and beyond.

Lots of folks got into credit card debt focusing on their ability to make the monthly minimums, rather than on their ultimate ability to pay the debt off.  They forget that minimum payments on most credit cards are set to keep you in debt for several decades.

Particularly in times of profound economic uncertainty, consider the merits of a fresh start and a make a plan for financial self sufficiency.

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Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights

The Worst Reason To Choose Debt Settlement Over Bankruptcy

By Cathy Moran

settle or file bankruptcyThe guy with an old debt asked if bankruptcy or debt settlement would cause greater damage to his “credit”.

The money advice columnist gave the right answer to the wrong question.

She got it backwards.

She advised that bankruptcy was more damaging given that the nagging debts were already three years old and would drop off his credit report in four years, whereas bankruptcy would show for seven to ten years from the bankruptcy filing.

Right, assuming that your credit history is the important issue.

But your credit record is a sideshow in life.

Dealing with old debt

I would first challenge the question.

When you look at the alternatives to debts you can’t pay, I think the first concern should be for your balance sheet.

Which of the alternatives makes you better off NOW, not when you want to incur more debt in the future.

For the man writing in about settling a $13,000 debt for $5,000, I would have a series of questions that didn’t center on his ability to get new credit.

  • How old are you?
  • Do you support others?
  • Do you have any emergency savings?
  • How are you doing on retirement savings?
  • Got health insurance?

If he is young, single, and employed with a bit of money in the bank, perhaps paying $5,000 to make eliminate a $13,000 debt is a good deal.

If he’s middle aged, supporting children or aged parents, and living paycheck to paycheck, I would be inclined to suggest there are better uses for $5000.  At the most basic level, put it in an IRA, and your creditors can’t take it.

If he’s approaching retirement and looking at a future of reduced income and with  little need for future credit, chances are that there are crying needs for that $5000 other than dealing with an old debt.

It’s not about the credit score

As you can see,settlement versus  bankruptcy is not just a matter of which impacts your credit record more negatively.

The decision needs to take weigh spending money on old debts when faced with current and future demands on your assets.

It’s all backwards to think that protecting your credit record is the central issue..

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Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights, Managing Money Tagged With: credit score

Is There Life After Bankruptcy?

By Cathy Moran

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Is bankruptcy worth it?

If you see filing bankruptcy to get a fresh start as painful or less than honorable, you might wonder what life is like, on the other side of bankruptcy.

What’s the return on taking the big step?

I got a report from the other side this week from a Chapter 7 client from 3 years ago.  It knocked me off my chair.

When she filed bankruptcy

Single, well past middle age, a renter, and dead broke when she’d filed, she’d retired, moved, and bought a house!

Her email was entitled:  “A Happy Ending”.

I had been confident that bankruptcy was right for her, but she had found the decision fraught and painful. So it was nice to hear it from the woman who was living the life that it worked out.

I just didn’t image how well it had worked out.

Home ownership?  that soon, on her own, starting with nothing?

I didn’t see that coming.

Bankruptcy makes it possible

The downside of bankruptcy always seems to be at the forefront of the thinking of those struggling with the decision.

Debtors are bombarded with fear inducing visions of life after bankruptcy: no assets, no credit, no self respect.

Debtors image that lenders may ask about bankruptcy filings;  others might find out.  What if something catastrophic happens?

It’s easy to overlook the upside:

  • no holdovers from your current financial life;
  • no stress about promises to pay that you can’t keep;
  • no financial barriers to life improving.

Our laws make a fresh start possible.  Our economy wants us back as consumers.

The barriers to a fresh start are internal.

Usually, all we have to fear are the voices in our head.

This week’s voice from the past said there is a happy ending.

More about deciding to file bankruptcy

What the Motley Fool got wrong about filing bankruptcy

   Filing bankruptcy is all about a better future

   Tax trap in out of court debt settlement

   It’s not about the credit score

Image courtesy of Grisel D’An and Flickr.

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights, Life after bankruptcy, True Stories

Debt Can Kill You

By Cathy Moran

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Money is the single largest source of stress in the US.

Other potent sources of stress include work, the economy, family and relationships.  As a bankrutptcy lawyer, I can’t offer a remedy for these stressors.

But I do have a cure for debt troubles.

On National Stress Awareness Day, the connection between money, stress and bankruptcy merits  some thought.

The debt plan that scares me

Of all the chilling things my clients say to me, the pronouncement that they will just continue to juggle their money worries rather than file bankruptcy is the worst.

Scared of taking steps to get rid of debt, they consign themselves to worry, sleepless nights, and constant tension over their money problems.

What they don’t understand is that serious debt is not just a financial problem, it’s a health problem.

Stress kills

Stress_2-wikimediaStress is debilitating, at best, and lethal, at worst.

When stress doesn’t kill outright, it increases the risk of heart attack, high blood pressure, depression, infertility, and premature aging.

It interferes with family life.

Stress makes you stupid.  Really!

Stress isn’t just an emotion that you can endure with fortitude and strength of character.  It has physical consequences.

To choose to enduring constant money stress is to make a potentially disastrous health choice.

Yet I encounter far too many people who underrate the physical cost of remaining in debt.

Whether they fear the future, damage to their self image, or anxiety about public exposure, they shoulder the continuing stress rather than consider bankruptcy.

Emotional barriers to a fresh start

Bankruptcy is a remedy

Available without a prescription, bankruptcy provides relief from the stress of overwhelming debt.   It doesn’t require diet, exercise, or pills.

And yet it works quickly and reliably.

It’s sanctioned in the Bible and in the US Constitution.

It’s invoked by big corporations, big cities, and big name celebrities.

It works for individuals and families.

Eliminate debt as source of stress

Make the right health choice:  consider whether bankruptcy would take avoidable stress out of your life.

What’s so scary about bankruptcy

How bankruptcy works

How to interview a bankruptcy lawyer

Images courtesy of Marsmett Tallahassee and Wikimedia: Gdudycha

 

 

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy

The Real Threat To Your Retirement Savings Isn’t Bankruptcy

By Cathy Moran

face in mirrorYour retirement accounts are safe from your creditors.

California state law and federal bankruptcy law protect your savings for retirement held in recognized retirement vehicles from levy or lien.

But retirement savings are at risk.

Look in the mirror.

The biggest threat to your retirement account isn’t your creditors, it’s you.

You are usually the only person who can withdraw money from an IRA or take a loan against your 401(k).

And your creditors would be happy to press you until you think that’s a good way out of a financial bind.

It is almost always a wretched idea.

M.O. of a debt collector

Debt collection through the courts is relatively inefficient and costly to the creditor.

Law suits require lawyers, filing fees, and a chance for the person sued to fight back.  And even with a judgment, exemptions protect some assets from lien or levy by the creditor with a judgment.

How judgments work

How much better and cheaper if the creditor can “persuade” you to dip into an account that a creditor with a judgment couldn’t get to in order to pay the bill.

Toward that end, the debt collector will try

  • annoyance,
  • shame, or
  • fear

Whatever the method, they ratchet up the pressure until you think it’s smart to rob your retirement funds to solve today’s problem.

Are retirement savings ever the right answer

My instinctual answer is “no”.

But individuals and their situations are so varied that a flat no is probably too broad.

But only a bit.

The questions I’d ask myself before raiding retirement savings include

  • How much working life do I have left to replenish my retirement
  • Do I have an employer retirement plan to rely on
  • Do I have other assets with equity to supplement retirement
  • Is the bill to be paid with retirement savings just part of a bigger problem

The last question is probably the most important.  Is resort to retirement savings a one time solution, or is it just the first, or the most recent, indicator that your bills are bigger than your ability to repay them?

If so, it’s time to talk with a bankruptcy lawyer.  Understand what your options are.  Look at the big picture that includes all of your debts and all of your assets.

You can probably find a better solution.

Image courtesy of Steve Calcott. 

My thanks to Peter Mullison, whose post on retirement savings and bankruptcy sparked this perspective on the problem.

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights

Credit Reports Heal

By Cathy Moran

band-24298_1280 (1)_optWill filing bankruptcy hurt my credit? Probably.

Should that hit to your credit keep from filing bankruptcy?  Not by a long shot.

Incredibly, I encounter people drowning in debt who think their credit report is more important than their financial health.

Their thinking seems to be that credit, once damaged, is never the same.

It’s not so.

A blow to your credit is not permanent nor even long lasting.

Your “credit”, or really, your worthiness for new credit, is almost a living, breathing thing.  It can suffer a blow and recover.

Credit hit is like a cut

Whether you choose debt settlement, debt management or bankruptcy, the solution will damage your credit, in the short run.

Think of the damage like a wound.

The wound bleeds, it exposes the rest of your body to infection.  It hurts.

Think of bankruptcy as antiseptic.  Douse the wound with antiseptic to kill infection and promote healing and it hurts…but the hurt fades.

Over time, the wound closes and scabs over.  It isn’t painful most of the time.

When it’s healed, there’s a bit of a scar.

Over time, even the scar fades.

Debt is chronic disease

When your debts are beyond paying off in the normal course, it’s like a disease you can’t beat.  Persistent symptoms, sometimes progressively worse, other times just ever-present.

Debt saps your energy, consumes your thinking and limits your opportunities.

If your debts are such that you’ve considered bankruptcy, your credit worthiness is probably already compromised.  Would any creditor lend you more money at a reasonable rate?

If not, your credit may not be doing you any good at present.

Your balance sheet is what counts

A credit report is a limited history.  As time passes, the oldest history falls off the report to be replaced with the snapshot of today’s finances.

If you use bankruptcy to wipe away your old debts, your balance sheet (assets minus liabilities) improves on the spot.

The bankruptcy filing shows on your credit report, in the rear view mirror, for some time.  But its significance to lenders fades the farther down the road you get from filing.

But with your old debts gone, even right after you file, you no long look like someone who already has as much debt as they can handle  or more.

Take steps to get financially healthy and your credit will recover too.

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Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Consumer Rights, Life after bankruptcy Tagged With: credit heals

Rising From The Ashes Of Financial Disaster

By Cathy Moran

phoenix rising from ashesLife doesn’t end with bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy doesn’t mean that the good times are all in the past.

There’s the  future, too.

Both the individual and society reap benefits from bankruptcy in ways that you may have missed.

So, in my view, Jay Fleichman’s analysis of the bankruptcy of Halsey Minor, the founder of CNET and once a very rich man, didn’t go far enough.

Win some, lose some, said Minor.

Jay added, Don’t lose sight of the benefits to the society that preceded Minor’s crash.

The good before the crash

Minor’s ideas and entrepreneurship created jobs, technology, and wealth.

And then the fruits of the first success soured.  Minor’s subsequent ventures failed.

He filed Chapter 7 and tossed in the towel on this chapter of his business life.

The good to come

But that won’t be the end of the story nor the end of the benefits to the country as a whole.

I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that Minor starts another business, invests in a success, or shares his knowledge with others, after the bankruptcy.

That, for me, is the priceless consequence of bankruptcy.

The person who has filed bankruptcy and discharged his debts is freed up from the shackles of a financial disaster.  They don’t have to lurk in the underground economy, dodging creditors, hiding money, and laying low.

Their economic energy is liberated.  We all benefit.

The possibility that someone won’t be able to pay their bills is built into the price of commercial products.  It doesn’t come as a surprise to an astute manager that there will be some failures.  ( Non commercial transactions like loans within families and personal injury suits don’t do so well in bankruptcy because they’re not market driven). 

Business cycles, bad luck,or bad judgment can generate a personal financial crisis. 

But like the Phoenix rising from the ashes of its own funeral pyre,  bankruptcy debtors live to be be productive again.

Image in the public domain via Wikimedia.

Filed Under: Considering Bankruptcy, Life after bankruptcy

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